but make it something worthwhile. Not everyone refers to that part of a wheel the "rim". A rim and a wheel in my opinion are the same damn thing. The outermost section of a wheel I call the "lip". When is the last time you heard someone say "look at the deep rim on those wheels" probably never. How about "look at the deep lip on those rims." That's more like it. Not everybody uses the same lingo as Virginia.